The Upside: Fund feature – Unpacking Fidelity Canadian Large Cap Fund
Join Investment Analyst Marianne Lando as she takes you inside the Fidelity Canadian Large Cap Fund, managed by Portfolio Manager Dan Dupont, who’s celebrating 25 years with Fidelity.
The Fidelity Canadian Large Cap Fund invests in well-known, established companies, with a focus on finding good businesses that may be undervalued. The approach is designed to hold up across different market conditions and has the flexibility to invest outside Canada when it makes sense.
Marianne covers this fund closely and will share how Dan approaches investing, how opportunities are evaluated and how this fund may fit into a diversified portfolio.
Transcript
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,039
Subtitles are AI-Generated.
00:00:06,339 --> 00:00:09,376
Hello and welcome to the Upside Fund feature, I'm Helen Pang.
00:00:09,376 --> 00:00:11,277
I'm here today with Marianne Lando.
00:00:11,277 --> 00:00:14,481
Marianne is an investment analyst on the product research team here at
00:00:14,481 --> 00:00:18,651
Fidelity. She covers the Fidelity Canadian Large Cap Fund, which is managed by
00:00:18,651 --> 00:00:22,789
portfolio manager Dan Gepon, who has been covering the fund over the last 15
00:00:22,822 --> 00:00:26,292
years. Hi Marianne. Hi Helen, thanks for having me.
00:00:26,292 --> 00:00:30,430
Dan DuPont has 25 years of industry experience and also manages Fidelity
00:00:30,430 --> 00:00:34,167
Global Value Long Short Fund and the Fidelity North Star Fund.
00:00:34,167 --> 00:00:37,804
And he also co-manages Fidelity global Equity Plus Fund.
00:00:37,804 --> 00:00:41,474
Dan is a value investor. Marianne, can you please tell us what that means and
00:00:41,474 --> 00:00:44,210
walk us through his investment process?
00:00:44,210 --> 00:00:47,547
Dan's investment framework is anchored in capital preservation and downside
00:00:47,547 --> 00:00:50,583
protection through periods of market volatility.
00:00:50,583 --> 00:00:54,621
His disciplined focus on balance sheet strength and valuation may help
00:00:54,621 --> 00:00:58,591
limit losses in difficult markets, potentially leading to lower volatility
00:00:58,591 --> 00:01:02,462
and smaller drawdowns over time, an important advantage for supporting
00:01:02,462 --> 00:01:04,164
long-term compounding.
00:01:04,164 --> 00:01:08,301
And he achieves this by seeking durable businesses with strong balance sheets
00:01:08,301 --> 00:01:11,905
and assistant-free cash flow, which helps mitigate the impact of market
00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:14,941
weakness. And support overall portfolio stability.
00:01:16,009 --> 00:01:20,280
Value investing in this context means being infinitely patient on price until
00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,017
a clear disconnect between price and long-term earnings power.
00:01:24,017 --> 00:01:28,088
A thoughtful margin of safety shapes portfolio construction with decisions
00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:32,125
driven by business bottom-up fundamentals and valuation rather than
00:01:32,125 --> 00:01:34,861
macroeconomic and geopolitical forecast.
00:01:34,861 --> 00:01:39,332
Canadian Large Cap Fund was at 0% energy in
00:01:39,332 --> 00:01:41,167
January of 2020.
00:01:41,167 --> 00:01:45,171
And then nine months later, we were at 30% because oil
00:01:45,171 --> 00:01:49,209
went below zero, and these stocks discounted a really low oil price
00:01:49,209 --> 00:01:53,279
for a long time. So I go in those directions when the price
00:01:53,313 --> 00:01:57,250
becomes really easy for me to basically make a decision.
00:01:57,250 --> 00:01:59,786
And passwords today.
00:01:59,786 --> 00:02:03,923
You know oil and gas was sold sold sold and now we were at zero because
00:02:03,923 --> 00:02:07,627
they cannot predict whether the oil price will go a lot higher or a lot lower
00:02:07,627 --> 00:02:11,631
and it's true also for precious metals where we have some positions last
00:02:11,631 --> 00:02:15,835
year eventually they got so high that i had to sell them i
00:02:15,835 --> 00:02:19,939
don't really follow kind of free cash flow generation based on the current oil
00:02:19,939 --> 00:02:24,077
for a gold price i look more at you know where is the gold price
00:02:24,077 --> 00:02:28,081
relative history and then when it gets to a point where it It's a no-brainer
00:02:28,081 --> 00:02:32,085
on the downside. Then I will put a foot, I guess a toe in the
00:02:32,085 --> 00:02:34,320
water, maybe eventually a foot.
00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,258
But you look back over 25 years, and typically
00:02:38,258 --> 00:02:42,262
the gold price follows real rates, and it's disconnected
00:02:42,262 --> 00:02:46,399
from real rates over the past few years because central banks have been buyers.
00:02:46,399 --> 00:02:50,336
The Canadian Large Cap Fund specifically is managed with an aim to weather
00:02:50,336 --> 00:02:54,240
market volatility, with emphasis on capital preservation and downside
00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,144
protection. And recently, there can be a lot of fear and investor sentiment
00:02:58,144 --> 00:03:01,614
driven by headlines and ongoing developments in geopolitics.
00:03:01,614 --> 00:03:03,449
How does this fund address that?
00:03:03,483 --> 00:03:07,687
Dan sees one of the widest aspersions in technology evaluations we've witnessed
00:03:07,687 --> 00:03:12,692
in decades as markets price in a clear divide between AI winners and losers.
00:03:12,692 --> 00:03:16,062
He's selectively investing in deeply discounted, high-quality software
00:03:16,062 --> 00:03:19,933
businesses trading at attractive free cash flow yields while steering clear of
00:03:19,933 --> 00:03:22,035
more speculative names.
00:03:22,035 --> 00:03:25,271
Against this backdrop, the fund is positioned more defensively, emphasising
00:03:25,271 --> 00:03:29,342
stable, cash-generative businesses in overlooked areas such
00:03:29,342 --> 00:03:31,077
as consumer staples.
00:03:31,077 --> 00:03:35,114
In Dan's view, one key change to this cycle is that traditional inflation
00:03:35,114 --> 00:03:39,052
hedge commodities like oil and gold, which were once relied
00:03:39,052 --> 00:03:43,623
on for protection, are now more correlated with equities and harder to predict,
00:03:43,623 --> 00:03:45,792
limiting their effectiveness as diversifiers.
00:03:46,859 --> 00:03:50,496
And finally, liquidity also remains a priority, enabling the portfolio to
00:03:50,496 --> 00:03:54,701
remain defensive while retaining the flexibility to deploy capital quickly as
00:03:54,701 --> 00:03:56,669
valuations become more compelling.
00:03:56,669 --> 00:04:01,207
I'm trying to stay away from trouble, not trying to diversify per se.
00:04:01,207 --> 00:04:05,144
If in 2020, when what was really cheap was oil and gas, that's
00:04:05,144 --> 00:04:09,082
where we put a lot of our eggs because that's were the
00:04:09,082 --> 00:04:11,951
cheapest was, that where the least downside was.
00:04:11,951 --> 00:04:15,955
And so right now, the least down side where we've put more of our
00:04:15,955 --> 00:04:21,094
assets or more of our capital is in more defensive sectors, mostly staples.
00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:25,098
And it's just a result of the process bottom up, effectively.
00:04:25,098 --> 00:04:29,302
So I look at everything around the world, and I've been invested in tobacco
00:04:29,302 --> 00:04:33,306
for many years now, been invested it in spirits for a little
00:04:33,306 --> 00:04:37,277
less, little shorter amount of time, but still it's a
00:04:37,277 --> 00:04:38,745
decent size position there.
00:04:39,912 --> 00:04:43,416
And then South Forrest is gonna start to be a decent sized one.
00:04:43,416 --> 00:04:47,553
We saw the size of the sectors in my holdings in February without the
00:04:47,553 --> 00:04:51,257
holdings coming out. It's gone up quite substantially.
00:04:51,257 --> 00:04:54,627
So I think that's where you need to be to protect the downside.
00:04:54,627 --> 00:04:56,763
Let's look at the fund's performance.
00:04:56,763 --> 00:05:00,466
Since Dan DuPont took over portfolio management responsibilities of the
00:05:00,466 --> 00:05:04,437
Canadian Large Cap Fund, the strategy in Series F has not experienced
00:05:04,437 --> 00:05:06,372
a single negative calendar year.
00:05:06,372 --> 00:05:09,776
Can you walk us through some of the key moments and achievements over the last
00:05:09,776 --> 00:05:11,277
15 years?
00:05:11,277 --> 00:05:15,381
Canadian Large Cap Fund's track record reflects an investment approach designed
00:05:15,381 --> 00:05:17,283
to stand the test of time.
00:05:17,283 --> 00:05:21,454
Since Dan's tenure, the four-star, Morningstar-rated fund in the Series F
00:05:21,454 --> 00:05:25,591
has returned 11.8% outperforming its Canadian-focused equity
00:05:25,591 --> 00:05:27,894
category by 2.8%.
00:05:27,894 --> 00:05:31,664
More importantly, the fund has achieved this without a single negative calendar
00:05:31,664 --> 00:05:35,935
year as shown on the bar chart, highlighting a disciplined balance between
00:05:35,935 --> 00:05:39,072
downside protection and upside participation.
00:05:39,072 --> 00:05:43,242
These include a diverse range of market shocks, from the 2011
00:05:43,242 --> 00:05:47,413
US debt ceiling and Eurozone crisis correction to the 2015
00:05:47,413 --> 00:05:51,551
to 2016 China devaluation and oil collapse,
00:05:51,551 --> 00:05:55,521
the late 2018 equity sell-off, the COVID-19 market shock
00:05:55,521 --> 00:05:59,959
in 2020, the inflation-driven bear market of 2022,
00:05:59,959 --> 00:06:02,795
and the recent tariff-related volatility in 2025.
00:06:03,863 --> 00:06:07,700
Across these episodes, the fund has declined less than the broader market and
00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:11,571
in many cases recovered more quickly as conditions stabilised.
00:06:11,571 --> 00:06:15,541
That consistency has been recognised externally as well, with
00:06:15,541 --> 00:06:19,946
the fund earning nine fund-grade A-plus awards and twelve Lipper Awards,
00:06:19,946 --> 00:06:23,750
reinforcing the strength of a process rooted in valuation discipline, capital
00:06:23,750 --> 00:06:27,520
preservation, and selective risk-taking across market cycles.
00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,190
I want to thank them for the last 15 years for being patient through some
00:06:31,190 --> 00:06:35,461
orders in a few years where they might have thought, well, has he lost his
00:06:35,461 --> 00:06:39,165
mojo? But understanding now that it's all part of the process.
00:06:39,165 --> 00:06:43,002
And there's years like 2022 when people need me a little bit.
00:06:43,002 --> 00:06:46,005
And then there's the years where we need to be very patient.
00:06:46,005 --> 00:06:49,976
But the process is the same, hopefully for the next 15, 20 years.
00:06:49,976 --> 00:06:53,746
And we'll try to keep compounding at a high rate by protecting their art and
00:06:53,746 --> 00:06:54,614
money.
00:06:54,614 --> 00:06:58,017
Although this fund is called the Canadian Large Cap Fund, it does have the
00:06:58,017 --> 00:07:00,420
flexibility to invest internationally.
00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:02,622
Can you please tell us a bit more about that?
00:07:02,622 --> 00:07:03,956
With the flexibility to invest...
00:07:03,956 --> 00:07:07,960
Up to 49% outside of Canada, the Fund's global diversification has
00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,596
been an important contributor to returns.
00:07:10,596 --> 00:07:14,267
Targeted exposure to select international markets including Europe, Asia and
00:07:14,267 --> 00:07:18,171
emerging economies has allowed the portfolio to capitalise on more attractive
00:07:18,171 --> 00:07:20,807
valuations beyond Canada.
00:07:20,807 --> 00:07:24,310
Dan's disciplined bottom-up approach to identifying undervalued businesses in
00:07:24,310 --> 00:07:28,181
regions with supportive macro conditions has strengthened the Funds' ability to
00:07:28,181 --> 00:07:31,918
deliver strong risk-adjusted returns in an increasingly complex market
00:07:31,918 --> 00:07:36,189
environment. Building on his proven global valuation driven approach,
00:07:36,189 --> 00:07:39,992
we're pleased to introduce the Fidelity Global Concentrated Value Fund, also
00:07:39,992 --> 00:07:42,962
managed by portfolio manager Dan DuPont.
00:07:42,962 --> 00:07:46,432
The fund applies the same disciplined investment process investors know from
00:07:46,432 --> 00:07:50,470
Canadian large cap fund, but on a global stage, giving him the ability to cast
00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:54,140
a much wider net for high conviction ideas worldwide.
00:07:54,140 --> 00:07:56,642
For me, for large caps, there's less of them.
00:07:57,944 --> 00:08:01,280
We still have a 2% in China.
00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,952
We have a decent amount in Europe generally, maybe almost 20%.
00:08:05,952 --> 00:08:10,189
But it's not the most exciting environment to invest internationally,
00:08:10,189 --> 00:08:11,991
mostly from an absolute perspective.
00:08:11,991 --> 00:08:15,595
Maybe from a relative perspective, somebody that wants to decide whether they
00:08:15,595 --> 00:08:19,832
wanna invest in the US or globally or internationally,
00:08:19,832 --> 00:08:23,035
international is still somewhat cheaper.
00:08:23,035 --> 00:08:27,073
But for me, the whole software wobble has actually brought me back somewhat
00:08:27,073 --> 00:08:29,942
to the U.S. Because that's where the software companies are.
00:08:29,942 --> 00:08:34,380
There's really not a lot of good, large software
00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:35,982
companies outside the U S.
00:08:35,982 --> 00:08:39,385
That's all for today's show. Please follow us on our socials including
00:08:39,385 --> 00:08:42,822
Instagram, YouTube, LinkedIn, Facebook, and Reddit for more great content and
00:08:42,822 --> 00:08:46,759
the latest financial updates. You can also head to Fidelity.ca's investor
00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:50,696
education section to check out our articles, sign up for the upside newsletter,
00:08:50,696 --> 00:08:54,700
and get information about upcoming live webcasts and on-demand videos.
00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:57,670
Whether you're learning investment basics or looking for more advanced
00:08:57,670 --> 00:09:00,773
knowledge, we can help you become a more informed investor.
00:09:00,773 --> 00:09:04,544
As always, working with a financial advisor is among the best investments you
00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:08,347
can make. Thanks for watching and I hope you'll join us again on the upside.
00:09:25,031 --> 00:09:29,435
Thanks for listening to, or watching, Fidelity Canada's The Upside podcast.
00:09:29,435 --> 00:09:33,372
Subscribe on your podcast platform of choice so you don't miss an episode.
00:09:33,372 --> 00:09:37,076
If you like what you're hearing please leave a review or a five-star rating.
00:09:37,076 --> 00:09:40,346
Fidelity mutual funds and ETFs are available by working with a financial
00:09:40,346 --> 00:09:43,249
advisor or through an online brokerage account.
00:09:43,249 --> 00:09:46,852
Visit fidelity.ca/howtobuy for more information.
00:09:46,852 --> 00:09:50,289
While on fidelity.ca you can also find more information on future live
00:09:50,289 --> 00:09:54,226
webcasts. Don't forget to follow Fidelity Canada on LinkedIn, YouTube,
00:09:54,226 --> 00:09:58,464
Instagram, or X. We'll wrap things up today with a quick disclaimer.
00:09:58,464 --> 00:10:01,767
The views and opinions expressed on this podcast are those of the participants
00:10:01,767 --> 00:10:06,105
and do not necessarily reflect those of Fidelity Investments Canada ULC or
00:10:06,105 --> 00:10:10,142
its affiliates. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should
00:10:10,142 --> 00:10:13,245
not be construed as investment, tax or legal advice.
00:10:13,245 --> 00:10:16,682
It is not an offer to sell or buy or an endorsement, recommendation or
00:10:16,682 --> 00:10:19,685
sponsorship of any entity or security cited.
00:10:19,685 --> 00:10:21,387
Read a fund's prospectus before investing.
00:10:21,387 --> 00:10:23,255
Funds are not guaranteed.
00:10:23,255 --> 00:10:26,826
Their values change frequently and past performance may not be repeated.
00:10:26,826 --> 00:10:31,030
Fees, expenses and commissions are all associated with fund investments.
00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:32,865
Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you next time.
00:13:29,675 --> 00:13:35,714
Subtitles are AI-Generated.
00:22:54,706 --> 00:22:59,111
Thanks for listening to, or watching, Fidelity Canada's The Upside podcast.
00:22:59,111 --> 00:23:03,048
Subscribe on your podcast platform of choice so you don't miss an episode.
00:23:03,048 --> 00:23:06,752
If you like what you're hearing please leave a review or a five-star rating.
00:23:06,752 --> 00:23:10,021
Fidelity mutual funds and ETFs are available by working with a financial
00:23:10,021 --> 00:23:12,924
advisor or through an online brokerage account.
00:23:12,924 --> 00:23:16,528
Visit fidelity.ca/howtobuy for more information.
00:23:16,528 --> 00:23:19,965
While on fidelity.ca you can also find more information on future live
00:23:19,965 --> 00:23:23,902
webcasts. Don't forget to follow Fidelity Canada on LinkedIn, YouTube,
00:23:23,902 --> 00:23:28,140
Instagram, or X. We'll wrap things up today with a quick disclaimer.
00:23:28,140 --> 00:23:31,443
The views and opinions expressed on this podcast are those of the participants
00:23:31,443 --> 00:23:35,781
and do not necessarily reflect those of Fidelity Investments Canada ULC or
00:23:35,781 --> 00:23:39,818
its affiliates. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should
00:23:39,818 --> 00:23:42,921
not be construed as investment, tax or legal advice.
00:23:42,921 --> 00:23:46,358
It is not an offer to sell or buy or an endorsement, recommendation or
00:23:46,358 --> 00:23:49,361
sponsorship of any entity or security cited.
00:23:49,361 --> 00:23:51,062
Read a fund's prospectus before investing.
00:23:51,062 --> 00:23:52,931
Funds are not guaranteed.
00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:56,501
Their values change frequently and past performance may not be repeated.
00:23:56,501 --> 00:24:00,705
Fees, expenses and commissions are all associated with fund investments.
00:24:00,705 --> 00:24:02,541
Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you next time.

