The Upside: Budgeting, saving and investing 101
Confused about money stuff? You’re not alone. Wondering how to budget, save or start investing without feeling overwhelmed? We’ve got you covered.
Join Alternatives Investment Analyst Daniela Florea and Sustainable Investment Specialist Julianna Martino as they break down the basics of personal finance. From common myths to smart tools and realistic timelines, this episode is your crash course in getting financially confident this Financial Literacy Month!
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Welcome to the upside. I'm your host, Tamara Radocaj.
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Wondering how to budget, save, or start investing without feeling overwhelmed.
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In the spirit of Financial Literacy Month, we're here to talk about it and
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answer some pre-submitted questions from young people starting out on their
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personal finance journeys.
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Welcome to Daniela Florea, Alternatives Investment Analyst, and
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Julianna Martino, Sustainable Investment Specialist, who are here
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with us today to break down the basics of personal finance, from common myths
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to smart tools to realistic timelines and more.
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Daniela and Julianna, welcome.
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Thank you for having us. Thanks.
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Of course. All right, before we dive into some personal finance
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questions, can you both just tell us a little bit about who you are and what
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you do at Fidelity? Yeah.
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Daniella, let's start with you. Yeah, for sure.
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Thanks. So, as you mentioned, I'm an investment analyst on our alternatives
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product development team. And so, what that essentially means is I'm
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responsible for supporting and enhancing Fidelity Canada's retail
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lineup of alternative mutual funds and other solutions.
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And so, really, it involves providing critical support for new product
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development initiatives by delivering competitor industry
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and strategic analysis to inform our product strategy.
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And really, this means collaborating with external resources sometimes, but a
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lot of different internal parties as well throughout Fidelity
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in order to bring new product launches to life and solution new solutions to
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market and ensuring that they are ultimately supported with materials
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that you know are effectively communicating the investment.
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Merits of each offering.
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Yeah, and I'm Julianna Martino, as you mentioned, a sustainable investment
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specialist on our product team. And there's kind of three ways I think about my
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role. First, we call it product management.
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So being the subject matter expert on the sustainable investment products that
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we offer and providing updates on performance and commentary,
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product development, so doing that market competitor and product analysis and
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seeing where there's viable opportunities to launch new products.
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And then also there's a lot of reporting requirements and kind of just staying
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abreast of the regulatory landscape, just because you know the landscape is
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dynamic and evolving. So, you know, every day does look different, but in a
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nutshell, those are my responsibilities.
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Very exciting.
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Yeah. All right, Daniela, first things first, first question
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How do you start a budget?
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Are there apps or other resources available to help get started?
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And what are the timelines we should consider when building budgets?
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Yeah, great question. I think it's it's it's a lot of things to unpack.
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And a single question is something, you know, we always probably think about as
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individuals and you know, as we try to think about where our money goes each
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month. So with that being said, you know, I'd say budgeting is extremely
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important because we often have competing priorities with respect to how you
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know we're spending our income on in a given month.
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And so I think the first step I would highlight is just really about awareness.
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So taking a look at, you know, where you've been spending over the past
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couple of months and where your money is essentially going towards and kind of
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you know, working to categorise those different areas, whether it's housing,
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transportation, food, miscellaneous impulse
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bias, it's really just being aware of that.
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So once you have that picture, you could really start with a monthly budget.
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And there's different types of budgeting approach that you could approaches
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that you could apply, and that really just depends on your lifestyle
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a lot, right? So you could do like a pay yourself budgeting method, or you
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could do a method where you're allocating a purpose to each dollar.
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In terms of, you know, what are the types of resources that you could use to
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help you start a budget? There's lots out there.
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There's a lot of independent apps that could help you do this.
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If you have online banking with your financial institution, their apps often
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have some budgeting tools incorporated.
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The government of Canada also has a budget planner on their website.
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And of course, you know, the old pen and paper always work as well or an Excel
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spreadsheet on your laptop.
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Can always come in handy. So there's lots of different ways that you could go
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about starting your budget and really tracking it on a monthly basis.
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In terms of timelines to get to the last part of your question
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is I'd say probably at the start, you want to give yourself a couple of months
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to really see the flow of where your cash is going
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and whether you can actually stick to that budget, right?
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Maybe we may not set something that's realistic for us.
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And we have to always keep in mind that, you know, it's about consistency, not
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perfection. So I think you want to give yourself yourself a couple of months
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to, you know, actually get in that flow of tracking and, you know, making sure
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that what you've set as your budget targets actually, you know, makes sense
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given your current lifestyle.
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Great. And Julianna, as someone's planning a budget, how
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would they differentiate between a want and a need when they're trying to
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allocate all the different categories?
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So I think the question you need to ask yourself is is this expense required
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for my daily life and functioning, or is it just a nice nice to have?
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If it is required for actually maintaining your basic well-being, then
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chances are it's a need. So this could be rent or housing costs, maybe your
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basic groceries, paying down the minimum credit card payment.
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These are needs. If it is something that provides you with maybe more
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enjoyment, convenience or comfort, in that case, it's likely
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not essential and it's a want.
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So rather than basic groceries, it could be, you know, ordering takeout or
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going out for dinner, maybe going to concerts or buying more clothes when you
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already have a closet full. These are all wants.
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But it is important when you're budgeting to account for both.
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You know, Daniela talked about different approaches.
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You could pay yourself first. You can consider a 50-30-20 rule
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where 50% of your money is going towards those needs, 30%
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is going towards those wants, and then 20% goes towards savings and
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investments. And in this case, you're covering all bases because you're
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covering the essentials, you're covering your fun, but then also helping to
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prepare for your financial future as well.
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Fifty. 3020, that's a really great rule to follow.
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Next question, Julianna, is for you.
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How much liquidity or cash should I save in my account and how much
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should I invest?
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Yeah, so it's a tough question because ultimately there is no one size fits
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all. It really does kind of depend on your age, maybe your income,
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your goals. And so liquidity at the end of the day is the cash that you have
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available for daily living, maybe for emergencies.
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Typically putting aside maybe 50 to 70% of your money into a
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cash or checking account so it's readily accessible is typically appropriate.
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And then investing is more for long term growth.
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And so you're putting it aside because you want it to grow over time.
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In this case, maybe setting aside 30 to 50% of your money is appropriate
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because you know you're allowing time to work on your side and allowing
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that money to grow over time. So again, it really does depend on the person,
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what your goals are.
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But just and also thinking about how these percentages might change over time.
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You know, as you have more savings, you can choose to invest more.
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So keeping an eye, reassessing, I think it's important to just consider that
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when you are you know, setting your money aside.
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Great, Daniela, you're next.
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Julianna mentioned an emergency fund.
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Can you talk a little bit more about that in more depth?
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What is an emergency fund and why should someone have one?
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Yeah, for sure. And I think as Julianna said, what emergency fund essentially
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is is just money set aside for unexpected expenses, like say your
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car breaks down and you now need to do repairs, or your phone breaks and you
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need to get a new one. Those are things that you're perhaps not anticip not
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anticipating to happen, but that you do need to have some money aside
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for. So it's essentially akin to like a financial safety net.
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So it should be money that's easily accessible, but that's also separate
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from your everyday spending account that you know you kind of talked about.
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And you know, ideally it's been typically recommended that this, you know,
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emergency fund should be about three to six months of essential
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expenses. But once again, this will really depend on, you know, your current
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financial situation. You know, if you're a student in undergrad or,
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you know, perhaps you've just entered the workforce, it may not be as realistic
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to have, you know, larger amounts.
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But even if it's something smaller, it could still help so that you're not
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relying on debt when it comes for these unexpected expenses
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and you still have some sort of cash or like liquidity available for these more
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unexpected type expenses.
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Great. Julianna, our next submitted question.
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What's the best way for young investors to decide between focusing on long-term
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growth investments versus short-term goals like saving for travel or other
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events?
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Yeah, it's a great question. I think the trick is match your money with your
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timeline. If it's something that you're aiming to achieve and maybe draw on the
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money within a few months to just a few years, then likely putting it
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into that kind of cash checking short-term savings account is
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appropriate. If it's something that you're planning to set your money aside for
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maybe three to five years plus, considering investments like
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stocks, bonds, mutual funds, or investment accounts.
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You know, if you're thinking about your retirement, then a registered
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retirement savings plan. If you're thinking of your first home, the first home
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savings account, considering those options is more appropriate if you know you
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want to set your money aside. Ultimately, you want to benefit from compound
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interest. And as a young person, starting early, you have more time on your
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side for that money to grow.
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So really it it does come down to what your timeline is.
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Short term, just think you want to draw on it sooner or cash or checking.
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Long term, you want to set it aside. So investments is typically the right
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approach. Cool.
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Daniella.
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What do you think is the biggest misconception that people have about managing
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their finances?
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Yeah, that's a great question. And I think, you know, you know, admittingly,
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I probably was victim to one of these misconceptions at some point in my life.
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And I think the really big one is that you need to have a lot of money to start
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managing it effectively.
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So in reality, like good financial habits really do matter more than
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you know, current income levels.
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So, you know, tracking your spendings, you know, saving some money
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aside for investing as well, paying yourself
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first are all steps anyone can take, regardless of whether you're doing this
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with $25 a month or you know, a thousand dollars a month.
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And I'll revert here to a concept, you know, we often talk about with respect
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to investing, but which I think can really apply, which is that, you know, the
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concept of you know, compound interest or compounding in general, it applies
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to budgeting as well, where if you're applying these small habits
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with respect to your finances, but you're doing so consistently, it can really
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go a long way over longer periods of time.
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And I think another misconception that I also wanted to point out is that many
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people probably think that like budgeting is restrictive, but it really
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shouldn't be that. It's not about saying no.
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In truth, it should be about, you know, a good budget giving you freedom to
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spend where you want later on because you've allocated for it ahead of time.
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Plus, it's always nice to find a little
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extra surprise in a you know in a budget that you you didn't get to spend all
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the way and you were like, oh I get to surprise, right?
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For sure. Don't know how often that happens, but
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Right, exactly.
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Another another one for you, Daniela.
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What are some practical ways for people to stay consistent with budgeting while
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managing variable expenses like social events, travel, especially
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when income changes month to month?
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Yeah, that that's a great question. And I think you know it's inevitable that
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you know your income may change from time to time, you know, throughout the
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different stages of your life, like Julianna mentioned, or your expenses may
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also change throughout the different stages of your life too.
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So I think it's important to be adaptable with respect
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to your budget. So I would say that if your income or expenses fluctuate,
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it's good to think in averages.
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So you know, basing your spending plan on a typical monthly income
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as opposed to you know a very strict number that you have in mind.
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So that way when you have, you know, like a higher earnings month, you could
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set more aside for, you know, whether it's your investing or some
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sort of expenses. And that can help compensate or provide a cushion
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for maybe some of the leaner months where perhaps your income is lower or your
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expenses are higher, right? Or a combination of the two.
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I'd say you can also create like a fun or a flex category
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for your budget for things like dining out or travel.
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And then once again, that way you can enjoy yourself without breaking your
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budgeting plan because you've allocated ahead of time.
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And, you know, one that I would be remiss if I wouldn't mention it is using
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automation as your friend, right, where possible.
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So setting up automatic transfers for savings or bill payments
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right after payday, because then you know for sure that you're going to get to
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some of those essential expenses first before going and spending your money on
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other things.
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Yeah, those are great, because then you forget about it and then you're like,
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oh, this, you know, this has grown quite nicely.
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I forgot that I did this, and you don't notice the money isn't there.
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So for sure.
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Okay, one final question before we finish off.
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What's a piece of advice that both of you have to people as they're starting
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their personal finance journeys? Julianna, let's start with you.
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Yeah, I would say track where your money goes before trying to change it.
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I think really understanding your spending habits and knowing how much money
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you're making and how much you're spending is the foundation for good financial
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management. Once you kind of know where your money is going, you can make more
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intentional decisions. But then ultimately just appreciating and understanding
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that it is a journey, you know, especially budgeting, starting your budget
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as a young person is gonna change the older you get, the more money that you
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have. So understanding that it's a journey and it's important to reassess and
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adjust accordingly.
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Daniella, what what's your piece of advice?
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Yeah, I'd say probably I'd echo Julianna and a lot of the points there is, you
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know, focusing on your cash flow, focusing on building good credit, and
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you know, making a habit out of saving.
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You know, once again, going back to that whole compound interest discussion is
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whether it's small, starting now is better than starting later.
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And most importantly, keeping in mind that money management isn't about
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restriction. It's actually about, you know, giving yourself that freedom and
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options for your future self.
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Because the financial choices you make now, you know, can make your
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postgraduation or other life events and
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potentially less stressful.
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And you know, one final thing I'll say is, you know, never compare your
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personal financial journey with others because it should at the end of the day
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be focused on your own goals and what you want to achieve and what you can do
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on the day-to-day, whether it's with respect to spending and investing, that
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can help you get to those goals.
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Amazing. Well, thank you.
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Well, so much for the insights today. I definitely learned a lot.
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affiliates. This podcast is for informational purposes only and should not
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be construed as investment, tax, or legal advice.
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It is not an offer to sell or buy or an endorsement, recommendation or
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sponsorship of any entity or security cited.
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Read a fund's prospectus before investing. Funds are not guaranteed.
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Their values change frequently and past performance may not be repeated.
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Fees, expenses and commissions are all associated with fund investments.
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